Remarks & AA 105-106 in English


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we ask that you'd fill this room with angels that we might breathe the heavenly atmosphere that the light from on high might fill our souls we ask that you would open our understanding to things that would edify us strengthen us and better prepares to give a winning message to those that we come into contact with and we thank you for these things in Jesus name Amen all right if you have the handout the one hand out I'm not going to address the day I don't remember the name of it the King of the South or something but I put that on a chatroom here recently and it pretty much summarizes some thoughts that need to be in place as we continue on through Daniel 11:40 245 so you can take that up later if you haven't looked at it I'm this is following I'm taking advantage of the superintendence remarks to follow my last presentation which is in response to what Larry was teaching about numbers and chronology I'll try to get beyond that today in the worship hour but this is kind of pulling some of the thoughts that he and I put in place or recently together and even Daniel but from Wikipedia it's a there was several you could pick from the definition of numerology because that's what people say that we're doing when we're looking at these numbers is numerology has any belief in the divine or mystical relationship between a number and one or more coincidental event I'd astrology and similar divinatory arts so what I'm saying is it's a counterfeit of a truth and you have two paragraphs here from three paragraphs here from patriarchs and prophets page 263 264 first paragraph Moses throws down his serpent his rod throws down his rod and it became a serpent you can see that in the first paragraph in the boldface and in the second paragraph says it was the hand of God and no human influence or power possessed by Moses and Aaron that wrought the miracles which they showed before Pharaoh so it wasn't magic but in the third paragraph the magician's come in and they counterfeit this miracle of Moses and where it says he produced Satan's power to do so he produced a counterfeit in that third paragraph I'll read from there it says to human sight the rods were changed to serpents such they were believed to be by Pharaoh and his court there was nothing in their appearance to distinguish them from the serpent produced by Moses though the Lord caused the real serpent to swallow up the spurious ones yet even this was regarded by Pharaoh not as the work of God's power but as a result of a kind of magic superior to that of his servants so to look at the work of pal Mona and identify it as Satan satanic numerology is to place yourself in the category of Pharaoh okay so not denying that numerology is a satanic magical art but it's a counterfeit there's bound to be a trick there has to be a true in order for a counterfeit to exist right if there is no true then there can't be a counterfeit okay so in the next couple pages I have snippets from Hiram Edson seven articles from nineteen or 1856 and I don't have the page numbers marked for you because I took those seven articles I put them into a paper so the pagination on the paper I brought was different than Hiram Edson articles so you can you can access those articles you can get them from me even get the paper I wrote but I just want to pull some points out of his articles as we begin to look at some numbers and I've said this several times here recently trying to emphasize this and I don't know that everyone out there is following this theme but I hope that they would from the fact of the important question under consideration being proposed at the close of the vision by the number of Secrets or the wonderful number I'm on page one and the notes on the bottom from the fact of the important question under consideration being proposed at the close of the vision by the number of Secrets or the wonderful number I understand that the burden and the great object of the vision was to reveal not only the agents but particularly the duration and the end of the appointed time of giving the host to be trodden underfoot go to Daniel 8:14 this is Hiram Edson and he's referencing the wonderful number a who is that certain Saint in Daniel 8 13 and what's boldface is he says when I look at Daniel 8 13 this is Hiram Edson theorizing he says I understand that the burden of the vision the visions just come to its conclusion in verse 12 and then Daniel hears this heavenly dialogue between the angels and the certain Saint so Hiram Edson say and I understand that the great object of the vision was to reveal not only the agents and the agents in verse 13 are these two desolating powers paganism and papal ISM those are the agents that are going to trample down the sanctuary in the host so Hiram Edson is saying I understand that the great that the burden a great object of the vision was to reveal not only the agents but particularly he's saying more than paganism and papal ISM but particularly the duration and the end of the appointed time so Hiram Edson is seen in Daniel 8 13 the emphasis on how long is this vision concerning paganism and papal ISM that are going to trample down the sanctuary in the hosts winds are going to end okay and it's going to end at the appointed time happy Sabbath the notes are there okay so that's a theme in his articles one of his teams he's looking for the appointed time in Daniel 8 but I want you to notice in that paragraph that he's acknowledging pal Mon I the wonderful number or that's his that's how he and the Pioneers understood the definition of that certain st. annex nip it from his articles on page 2 of the notes the appointed seven times of Moses prophecy was a portion of the hidden wisdom hidden for ages Hiram Edson is going to argue that the 2520 the seven times is the hidden wisdom that is hidden that when it comes to light at the time of the end will produce an increase of knowledge okay that's going to be his logic in this article we're working up the notes that are titled numerology or the wonderful number or number of secrets I'm on page two now I'm just pulling some thoughts from Hiram Edson articles in 1856 and in that top paragraph in the boldface it says but Gabriel had received a charge to make Daniel understand the vision and Gabriel had given Daniel his pledge that he would make him know what shall be in the last end of the indignation assuring him that at the time appointed which we have shown to be seven times the end should be hence Gabriel to redeem his pledge must necessarily give a key to unlock the mystery of the appointed time and show its end okay so now he's talking about a key that unlocks the mystery of the appointed time and shows the end okay he's saying that this is the hidden wisdom in the scriptures the hidden wisdom being the 2520 that when you see it it'll mark the time of the end and there'll be an increase of knowledge and the in the bottom sentence of that paragraph top paragraph on page two from higher events and he says but the key is not given it wasn't given to him right there in Chapter eight but the key is not given nor is the question answered either in the eighth or ninth chapters we may expect to find them contained in the three remaining chapters else Gabriel never fulfilled this charge nor the redemption of his pledge I disagree with Hiram Edson I think that you can show that the key was given to him in Daniel 8 but Hiram Edson didn't see it he just quoted it he said the last end of the indignation and you can go show there's two indignations and you could come to understand the last end of the indignation is 1844 but but Hiram Edson doesn't want to show it to be 1844 he wants to show it 1798 and because of that he's prevented from seeing that but nevertheless he's identifying the 2520 as this key that opens the hidden wisdom another portion of his article says Gabriel has now led Daniel down through the prophetic chain and made him know what shall be in the last end of the indignation and shown him clearly determination of the appointed time where the indignation should cease and has set up way marks and high heaps to serve as lighthouses to shed a brilliant light upon the point of its termination and from thence to the standing up or reign of Michael and the resurrection but a very important point the main secret of the hidden wisdom yet remained to be unfolded the key had not yet been given to unlock and reveal the manner of time contained in the appointed seven times by manner of time he's talking about how do you calculate time your day principle at this point Daniel sees two heavenly ones one of them said to be the man clothed in linen how long shall it be to the end of these wonders and go there if you would that's Daniel 12 6 now Hiram Edson unknowingly is building his whole premise upon Daniel 12 6 on this question Daniel 12 6 says and one of the the one said to the man clothed in linen which is upon the waters of the river how long shall it be to the end of these wonders the end of these wonders being the time of the end when the the key is turned that opens the increase of knowledge but I want you to see that the diverse that Hiram Edson here is pointing to is 126 it's Daniel 12 6 ok and he recognizes it as a time times and 1/2 the 1260 years that ended in 1798 now in terms of the what manner of time Hiram Edson says it had to be opened up the Year Day principle okay so in another portion of his articles that says the burden of Daniels anxiety in this is diligent inquiry is couched in the little world word what Peter's comment on this word will give us light on this point the Pioneers often go to Peter and address this subject right here where they build on this this is a pioneer understanding see first Peter 1 10 and 11 the prophets have inquired in search diligently what or what manner of time daniel's anxiety was now to understand the hidden wisdom where the manner of time contained into three and a half times which was the last half of the indignation which would also unlock the hidden wisdom or mystery of the seven times which was a the appointed time of the whole period of the indignation next page okay I'm going to talk I'm gonna step over those three paragraphs much of the same this is Hiram Edson and go to this last paragraph of Hiram Edson when I'm wanting you to see is that Hiram Edson puts in place that in Daniel 813 the certain Saint is Pomona the wonderful number he's using that as a point of reference he's saying he's arguing that the twenty five twenty is the key that unlocks the increase of knowledge at the time of the end and his anchor verse to make that point is Daniel 1:26 Daniel 12 six but he says this key what it unlocks is the hidden wisdom that's been hidden for ages and when Hiram Edson is going to speak about this hidden wisdom in this final little paragraph in the of page three towards the bottom it says the book of Daniels vision was closed up and sealed till the time of the end a correct understanding of many portions of the inspired volley volumes have been hidden for ages to be made manifest in their duty and proper time see Colossians 1:26 so his second witness to this hidden wisdom is once again 1:26 it's Daniel 1:26 and then Colossians 1:26 Daniel 12 6 and Colossians 1:26 and it's in reference to the wonderful number pomona okay so 1:26 you have therein in your notes Colossians 1:26 even the mystery which has been hidden from generations but now has made manifest to his Saints so I gave you a break down under isaiah 7 8 okay the this is the structure of the 2520 time prophecies if the prophecy is given in 742 BC the northern kingdoms taken into captivity in 723 the southern kingdom in 677 all BC the first 25 20 ends in 1798 the second ends in 1844 but because this is a chiastic structure it extends all the way to 1863 the 19 years it comes before 723 from 742 to 723 is representing the 19 years after 1844 that takes you to 1863 1863 being the year of many fulfillments in Advent history the setting aside of these two tables and replacing them with the 1863 chart the raising up of the seventh-day Adventist Church the arrival of the message of the health message the loss of the second of two sons that are laid to rest for the white sand fulfillment of rebuilding Jericho on and on 1863 pivotal way mark and in 1856 Hiram Ed's and has written these seven articles but he never finished him so he writes them in 1856 seven articles on the seven times and over the next seven years adventism rejects them because when you get to 1863 seven years after Hiram Edson wrote those seven articles on the seven times they set the 25 20th aside the 1863 chart that they produce no longer lifts up to the 25 20 and they come out with articles against it so I want you to see here on next page we don't have to read this big quote from the great controversy it's a familiar quote that's going to tell us the Daniel 8:14 first the first sentence under foundation and central pillar says the scripture which above all others had been the foundation and central pillar of the Advent faith was the declaration unto 2300 days then shall the sanctuary be cleansed that's the answer the question is verse 13 how long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice in the abomination of desolation to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden underfoot and then the answer is verse 14 you can't separate the question an answer so Daniel 813 is the central pillar and foundation of Adventism and so is Daniel 8:14 they cannot be separated therefore the Bible teaches us that no other foundation can be laid except what then is laid and that is Christ Jesus in in verse 13 that certain Saint which is in Daniel 8 13 in Daniel 8:14 is palimony and that's the foundation Pomona is the foundation and central pillar of Adventism and notice the beginning of the paragraph and great controversy after that speaking of October 22nd 1844 this is was the subject also of Hiram Edson he was talking about an appointed time in 1798 but here sister White's referring to the appointed time of October 22nd 1844 she says but the appointed time had passed and the Lord had not appeared the great disappointment October 22nd 1844 so now I've given some context to make some points in the center of page for Daniel 813 and palimony the Hebrew meaning is and this is just off a Wikipedia and I'm saying that because if you get into the Hebrew you can nail it down perfectly but in reality this is this is general commonly understood this isn't some obscure argument the Pioneers believed it they put it in their writings and you can go on Wikipedia and get this definition of Pomona it says the Hebrew meaning is the number of Secrets or the wonderful number a pal I means secret while pala means wonderful and Menna means number okay Pal Monet Pal Menna okay many many Tekel upharsin that's Menna in judges 13 17 and 18 it says and manoa said unto the angel of the Lord what is thy name that when thy sayings come to pass we may do the honor and the angel of the Lord said unto her why asked thou thus after my name seen it is secret the Lord is going to go up into heaven now and it's clearly Christ in the following verses and he says my name is secret and you can read that saying oh I have a name and it's secret and you can't know it or you can read it my name is secret that is my name okay and the Hebrew for secret is 63 83 and it comes from 63 81 it means remarkable secret wonderful a primitive root problem properly perhaps to separate that is distinguished by implication to be group to be make great difficult wonderful accomplished hard hidden things to high so what am I saying I'm saying when Christ in judges 13 says my name is secret he's identifying himself as the wonderful number earth and he is pal Mon I there and of course the the root for that is the Hebrew word 63 81 of course 63 is a symbol of what is the symbol of the 2520 what's 81 a symbol of midnight so in the in the concordance that word secret has a numerical hidden value of the 2520 and midnight but also if you multiply 6 times 3 times 8 times 1 you came to a hundred and forty-four which is the hundred and forty-four thousand right there in the word secret which is God's name now I want you to see that for this reason pal Mon I the wonderful number the number of Secrets as it is translated has in the an element of that name the pal I part of it the secret part of it it has the stamp of the hundred and forty-four thousand and I'm arguing that Daniel eight thirteen is identifying pal Mon I but that Matthew 16:18 is is giving a second witness to pal Mona or maybe a third if you want to include Daniel 5:25 as a second witness those two three I'm going to look at upon the testimony of two or three a thing is established so Daniel 5:25 what's Daniel 5:25 well I have for you in your notes verses 25 through 28 but it says and this is the writing that was written many many tickle you Farson this is the interpretation of the thing many God hath numbered pal Mon I the Mon I part of pal Mona is many okay so the pal Mona's name is directly connected with the handwriting on the wall Pal is the secret many is the number and that's just how Daniel defines it for Belshazzar he says many God hath numbered thy kingdom okay do you see the connection everyone see the connection there and that's at Daniel 5:25 so if you turn the page to Daniel 525 525 + 252 is 777 okay so if you take 525 it takes if you go from November 9th 2019 to December 25th 2021 you have 777 days but if you go 252 days to here you get to July 18 2020 leading 525 days but we but identified already that this history is the history of Donald Trump Donald Trump has so many 7 7 7 s upon his on his history that this is the history of Trump the last President of the United States but this history at this level is broken up in these three way marks and of course November 9th was a Sabbath July 18th will be a Sabbath and December 25th will be a Sabbath and these three dates occurring as Sabbath has never happened before in human history these three dates happen every year okay for 6,000 years but the first time that these three dates lineup as Sabbath Sabbath Sabbath he is right here on this line so not only do you have 777 day from this date to this date but you have a seventh-day Sabbath seventh-day Sabbath seventh-day Sabbath and what I'm saying is Daniel 5:25 when Belshazzar sees the handwriting on the wall the many many Tekel upharsin that that is connecting us to Daniel 813 the wonderful number you follow me and that this 525 is this number here and what I'm saying is if you invert it I don't know if I'm using the right word but if you invert 525 it's 252 that that's what I'm defining invert is changing five to five using the same numbers and just flipping around to 252 you follow me that's in your notes but also if you mirror if you mirror this 525 and I'm not sure that I'm saying this correctly either but if you mirror it upside down okay if this is the mirror then this five flips over and becomes a 2 and this 2 flips over and becomes a 5 and this 5 flips over and becomes a 2 you know what I mean by mirroring it upside down now right so there's a there's some kind of mathematical relationship with these 2 numbers here that they're not coincidental or accidental so Daniel 5:25 was speaking to this mathematical phenomenon and I'm saying that Palli the the part of pomona that is secret as Daniel recently shared from Deuteronomy 29:29 says the secret things belong unto the Lord our God but those things which are revealed belong unto us and to our children forever that we may do all the words of his law if you do all the words of his law then you are in a covenant relationship with him right that's how you keep the Covenant is your obedient to his law so in Psalm 25 14 it says the secret of the Lord is with them that fear him and he will show them his covenant okay so if the secret things are revealed to you they're revealed to you from the Lord and when he does that and you accept them then you're in a covenant relationship with him and I'm saying the symbol of the covenant relationship among other things it's the hundred and forty-four thousand which you can find in the Hebrew letter of secret Hebrew 63 81 but I'm also saying that the third witness or the second witness depending on what order that you want to put it is in his his is Matthew 16:18 where we have discussed that in that verse you have so many things going on you have the the gold fibia Fibonacci's golden ratio in that verse the relationship of the Fibonacci sequence to the golden ratio is this the ratio of each successive pair of numbers in the sequence approximates phi5 being one point six and the golden ratio is what or the the Fibonacci ratio is this zero plus one equals one one plus one equals two one plus two equals three two plus three equals 5/3 plus five equals eight five plus eight equals 13 that's Daniel 8 13 and it goes on it goes to 21 midnight it goes to 34 close of probation and it goes on but as this ratio between each two numbers goes on phy defines the ratio to each other it's 1.6 1.6 1.6 1/8 is 5 that's Matthew 16:18 the Fibonacci Fibonacci sequence is a series where the next term is the sum of the two previous terms I've already went over that Phi is the 21st letter in the Greek alphabet 21 being a symbol of midnight and in the place where we find Matthew 16:18 where we find this reference you have it in your notes it says and ice and to you thou art Peter and upon this rock I will build my church and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it I want you to see this is what you have to see Peter we know that P is the 16th letter in the English alphabet he is the fifth t is xx he is 1/5 R as the 18th and when you multiply those they come to 144,000 so in this verse Matthew 16:18 Peters marking the hundred and forty four thousand the same way palimony with the part of his name that is secret in Daniel 813 is marking the hundred and forty-four thousand the same way they're connected but I want you to see that Daniel eight thirteen is talking about two powers paganism and papal ISM that are going to trample down what God's temple and his people so Daniel 8 13 is about the restoration of God's temple and Matthew 16:18 is about a struggle between the gates of hell that's paganism and papal ism and God's church they are parallel passages you follow me so there they're not just connected randomly and what's the third witness that we've already looked at Daniel 5:25 okay Daniel 5:25 is the handwriting on the walls the judgment against Belshazzar where did he filled the cup of his iniquity Belshazzar and that story when he brought the sacred vessels of the temple in that was the end of the road Daniel 8 13 is about God's church Daniel 5 is about God's church Matthew 16:18 is about God's church they're three parallel passages they all have the wonderful numbering going on in them and the number that does these wonderful numbers is none other than pal Mona it is Christ so in the bottom of page 5 another thought on the temple it says then said the Jews forty and six years was this temple in building and wilt out reared up in three days and that's John 2:20 ok 2:20 was fulfilled on October 22nd 1844 after 46 years from 1798 to 1844 in a time of Christ it was Herod's remodeling that took 46 years to remodel that temple and Jesus says destroy this temple which is once again a reference to Daniel 813 Daniel 5:25 and Matthew 16:18 destroy this temple and I'll raise up in three days so the three is 46 and the 220 is pointing to the temple okay so in Malachi 3:1 through 4 it says behold I will send my messenger and he shall prepare the way before me and the Lord whom you seek shall suddenly come to his temple even the messenger of the Covenant whom you delight in behold he shall come saith the Lord and I won't read the rest when did the Lord come to his temple on October 22nd 1844 he suddenly came to his temple and entered into covenant with millerite Adventism and in the next page you can see sister white confirming this for you if you're not familiar with it and she says for at least four prophecies happen on October 22nd 1844 Malachi 3 daniel 7:13 daniel 8:14 and matthew 25 the parable of the ten virgins she says the same event but she says this coming suddenly to his temple will be repeated in our day and age you have that in great controversy 427 notice the last paragraph of those two paragraph well notice the first sentence says the prophet who shall abide the Davis coming and who shall stand when he appears where he's like a refiners fire and like polar slope and he shall sit as a refiner and purifier of silver and he shall purify the sons of Levi and purge them as gold silver that they may offer unto the Lord and offering in righteousness Malachi 3 that was fulfilled on October 22nd she's quoting it here and then in the next paragraph she says when this work shall have been accomplished the followers of Christ will be ready for his appearing Dan shall the offering of Judah and Jerusalem be pleasant so it happens again he came suddenly to his temple on October 22nd 1844 he comes suddenly to his temple in our history and when he came to the temple on October 26 1844 there had been 46 years where the millerite temple was being built from 1798 to 1844 just as it was 46 years for eras remodeling just as it was 46 days for Moses to receive the instruction on the temple on the Mount just as in our human body temple we have 46 chromosomes 23 female 23 male okay so the 46 is a symbol of the temple and it gets repeated in our day and age and when it does the 220 will be fulfilled and that 46 years is also three days okay and to make sure you understand it gets built again read Zechariah 6 12 through 15 I'm almost five minutes over time I had to put that in place before the sermon today thank you for letting me do that it's just it's just a grandson that we saw at the church years ago and he was a little kid how old are you now 15 yeah you probably don't remember any of us do you let's pray our Father which art in heaven as we take up the Sabbath School lesson and the book acts the Acts of the Apostles once again we ask that thy Holy Spirit would be our teacher and our guide into all truth you have said in your word that spiritual things are spiritually discerned and that the comforter which is the Holy Ghost whom the father will send in Jesus name will teach even us all things and bring all things to our remembrance whatsoever Jesus has said to us and we pray that you would do that for us this morning we pray and we thank you in the name of thy Son Jesus Christ amen okay let's turn to Acts of the Apostles page 105 and part of this will be about a certain man who came to the defense of the infant church as it asks in question number one who was that man that came forward in defense of the infant church during the persecution Nicodemus all right and how did he defend the infant church maybe we should read the first paragraph now when the Jews were trying to destroy the infant church Nicodemus came forward in its defense no longer cautious and questioning he encouraged the faith of the disciples and used his wealth in helping to sustain the church at Jerusalem and in it and in advancing the work of the gospel those who in other days had paid him reverence now scorned and persecuted him and he and he became poor in this world's good Goods yet he faltered not in the defence of his faith so how did Nicodemus come to the defense of the infant church money and one other thing and he encouraged the faith other disciples okay so if you would look up the meaning of Nicodemus his name in the Greek dictionary how might his name correspond to his ministry people's victory the people's victory okay I have victorious among his people so how might that definition correspond to his ministry as we have read it victory of thing but in the victory of faith among his people yeah all right now question number three study Acts of the Apostles 105.1 with the desire of Ages 176 and 101 77 that's dude that's it you may not have the desire of Ages with you but nevertheless we will go there and if you have it you can help answer this question so does someone have the desire of Ages 176 starting with the paragraph with the sentence the paragraph starting with the sentence in the interview with Nicodemus okay in the interview with Nicodemus Jesus unfolded the plan of salvation and his mission to the world in none of his subsequent discourses did he explain socially step-by-step the work necessary to be done in the hearts of all who would inherit his kingdom of heaven at the very beginning of his ministry he opened the truth to a member of the Sanhedrin to the mind that was most receptive and to an appointed teacher of the people but the leaders of Israel did not welcome the light Nicodemus hid the truth in his heart and for three years there was little apparent fruit go ahead and read the next paragraph wash maybe someone else if you have if someone else has access to that read the next paragraph acquainted with the soil into which he cast the seed the word spoken and night to one listener and the lonely mountain were not lost bright time Nicodemus did not publicly acknowledge Christ but he watched his life his teachings in the Sanhedrin Council he repeatedly thwarted the schemes of the priests to destroy him when at last Jesus was lifted up on the cross Nicodemus remembered the teaching upon all of it as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness even so must the Son of Man be lifted up that whosoever believeth in him should not perish but have eternal life the light from that secret interview illumined the cross upon Calvary and Nicodemus saw Jesus the world's Redeemer okay we could also read the next paragraph after the Lord's ascension when the disciples were scattered by persecution Nicodemus came boldly to the front he employed his wealth in sustaining the infant church the infant church that the Jews had expected to be blotted out at the death of Christ in the time of peril he who had been so cautious and questioning was firm as a rock encouraging the faith of the disciples and furnishings means and furnishing means to carry forward the work of the gospel he was scorned and persecuted by those who had paid him reverence in other days he became pouring his world's goods yet yet he faltered not in the faith which had its beginning in the night conference with Jesus know this question there and the second part of question number three you can find the answer in both passages and the desire of Ages and Acts of the Apostles what false was Nicodemus no longer manifesting in the time of peril better Larry number one and one that I read is that he did not welcome the light at the time when Jesus is interviewed and so now we would say that now he is welcoming the light okay all right you can say that is that not what you well you could say that - that would pretty much be the same thing as what I think what Larry said cautious and questioning if you look there and both passages bring this out in the 1 7 to 7 point 1 it says in the time apparel he who had been cautious as the desire of Ages 177 point 1 he who had been so cautious and questioning okay was firm as a rock etc okay and in Acts of the Apostles says on 105.1 say in the time of the peril he had been that way yeah that's what he said yeah he was being firm as a rock yeah that's a question oh okay and if you look at there in 105.1 second sentence no longer cautious in questioning he encouraged the faces of the disciples etc all right so you know you have even now I assume I imagine there are people that are not in this message that are watching just like it says in the desire of Ages of Nicodemus for a time Nicodemus did not publicly acknowledge Christ but he watched his life and pondered his teachings now question number four what was the result of the persecution that came upon the church in Jerusalem let's deal with that first what was the result of the person could go going back to addressing Acts of the Apostles excuse me if you look there I'll give you a hint of where the answer would be in that after the of the Apostle is 105 point two I'm looking for it especially a particular word yes impetus I'm looking for it again here and I'm yes dear it at the very beginning go ahead and read that for us brother Larry just that one sentence okay no he went back to accent a part 105 paragraph 2 first sentence the persecution that came upon the church in Jerusalem resulted in giving a great impetus to the work of the gospel okay now think about that is there a passage in great controversy and I'm centering I even though I'll give you gave you the page numbers that brings that parallels that go to if you have it great controversy six oh five six oh six yes buta for those who presented the truth of the third angels message have often been regarded as mere alarmist their predictions that religious intolerance would gain control in the United States the church and state would unite to persecute those who keep the commandments of God have been pronounced groundless and absurd it has been confidently declared that this land could never become other than what it has been the defender of religious freedom but as the question of enforcing Sunday observance is widely agitated the events so long doubted and disbelieve is seen to be approaching and the third message will produce an effect which could not have had before okay so what's going on there whether this is being okay there's its impetus but as you're reading the text what it is kind of difficult to explain but what's bringing about this effect this impetus fulfilment prophetic fulfillment okay and you are absolutely right I agree with that 100% I'm who you're looking for something just holler it's we my answer will what would be in that in the context of your answer those groundless and absurd no no I'm asking what what religious intolerance and how do you how do you see that in that paragraph prediction of religious oh you're saying prediction okay they can go together okay what I'm looking at here is the more than halfway down that paragraph but as the question of enforcing Sunday observance is widely agitated okay now maybe in my mind I'm assuming too much you can tell me if I'm not if I am or not maybe it would seem to me that as son the observance as being agitated that there would be some bit of persecution otherwise you know why would it be agitated is what I'm saying I think it's slightly implied there there that you have this Sunday legislation is being agitated but mixed with that in the background you don't see that without well in that paragraph I think it's implied that there is some bit of persecution beginning to be kindled and my if you think I'm going too far with that absolutely I think you have to connect it with the next paragraph which is stealing with Elijah and he was definitely under persecution for his prediction and she connects them so to say there's persecution just by contact she was yeah exactly yeah and see you know again considering this passage from big controversy you have the question of enforcing sudden observance as it's being widely agitated the event so long doubted and disbelieved is seen to be approaching okay what's my thought up the people what I'm trying to get at is that the people actually see because it says as the enforcement of Sunday of Sunday observance is why they agitated the event so long doubted and it's believed is seen to be approaching so they're seeing something they're seeing something happen not just in the legislative halls as they watch their TV or listen to the radio or present at the meetings but they see not only Sunday a Sunday legislation being agitated but they're beginning to see some people being brought or punished by the law I'll say that way yes once it Trump's the bailout law got to the House of Representatives yesterday instead of throwing roadblocks even the Democrats just got on board and they passed it okay they didn't have to do that so when it's saying widely agitated it's inferring an argument that's going on it it wouldn't have to be agitated if everyone was in agreement if they just said let's do it and everyone said passed the law it's passed agitation implies a resistance and if you go up to the previous paragraph it says that as well as a side note to this my opinion have you ever know my sound kind of silly have you ever been to a railroad track and put your ear down on the rail and you begin to see a nice shape but hear rumbles because the the vibration whatever it is you can feel it you can hear it in the rail in my opinion I believe we should be hearing right now we should if we have ears to hear and eyes to see we should be hearing that rumbling on the rail that that vibration that's that sound in the rail by the current pandemic the restrictions that are being enforced physical restrictions that's my opinion anyway and Demi I think the pandemic is causing so much attention that what Egypt and Russia are doing if there was nothing else going on what Egypt and Russia are doing is an act of war if you if you they're purposely bringing the price of oil down in order to take the oil industry in the United States out of business and when there's been Wars that started because one country shut down a shipping line transportation line of another country when you attack a country's financial resources it's an act of war and this pandemic is hiding even what's going on with Russia and Egypt right now they've taken the price of oil down to twenty to twenty three dollars a barrel and here in the United States that all companies need to have it above to make money and they're doing it purposely to put an industry in the United States out of business because I want us to be relying on them yes so so there's the pandemics one thing but there's other things happening you should really hear that you should get your ear off that train because you're about ready to get your hint run over about that track yeah it's getting real close yes I have a question about gc6 l5 they do read on it and it says doctor that M - it says the defender of religious freedom but us a question of enforcing Sunday observance is widely agitated the event so long doubted and disbelief is seen to be approaching so this really has nothing to do with the world it's only seventh-day Adventist because they're the only people that have ever had a concept of am i right well I would say you may be 90% right I mean there are other people I know personally some other people might my own family I'll just say doing very good to you though right what that the your family would only have an understanding of a Sunday law through a connection to you yeah but I mean I have I have told some members of my family and they don't believe me they never happened I told him back 20 25 years ago but it's still her point this is an Adventist yes I understand that Minister weaken him I got a few here and there that have been told but nobody ever but the evidence but again though a third time Ellen White's time she's saying how did you say it has been confident Lee declared that this land could never become other than what it has been the defender of religious freedom that is mostly unbelievers that make that a that that that claim I know there are those with in Adventism that that hold that foolish opinion but there are people I would say where's side times of change you know you'll have a lot of people in the Adventist Church that don't longer believe that even even now you have those who have once been in the in this movement who no longer believe that okay I'm saying historically it has been non-adventist that have been somehow confronted with the Adventist message and and and they'll just scoff at that over over the years that I've been a set of the evidence I have spoken to various people non-adventist that you know you know just not gonna happen yes hope of a celebrant celebration metal to the Pope of Rome they long ago rejected the idea of becoming Sunday law yeah told this story before that when I was just a baby Advent maybe one or two years old spiritually speaking I went to a very the pastor of our church I went to his house to visit him he's a very now and has been for years now a very prominent figure in Adventism an editor of a certain Adventist magazine and I confronted him with that and he just laughed in my face you know that I was concerned about the Adventist Church giving them the leadership giving a gold medal to the Pope you know so yeah and who was the one who gave and who was he he had in the religious liberty department what do you what are you looking for that yeah he was head of the religious liberty department giving a gold medal to an organization to a church that absolutely despises religious liberty and civil liberty that's an abomination but let's go on with the guy that was teaching at a camp meeting I was at a guy that worked with Beebe Beach was teaching where I was at in Canada because he was a European and he could speak French so for the French Canadians he was teaching and I was teaching I was teaching Daniel 11 and you could go to more than one meeting and these people were coming to me and they were saying look at you just a layperson and and you're saying the Sunday law a minute but this guy that works at the religious liberty Department of the General Conference he says he's teaching us that the sunday law is fifty to a hundred years off and least he taught it you can take that paragraph in great controversy of 605 606 and applied at different levels you taught it because they'll make a apostasy and they're saying there isn't even gonna be one a Sunday long exactly yeah so they're far beyond even that what does that tell you they have done worse than their fathers it tells you that the noise on that train track is really loud oh yes the one movement that is is destined to raise up their voice against this religious liberty crisis a majority of that movement has left and rejected the idea of a Sunday law yeah and I agree with you a hundred percent hundred percent and it should be and I think what you're trying to say is that this should be a sign to us on the end of the world because you have this movement who has had the greatest life it has ever been given to any people this should speak trumpet tones like the sound of Mount Sinai this trumpets own trumpet tones trumpets at Mount Sinai booming in our ears the end is here because of that very fact the very fact that these people that people have rejected the most glorious truths ever given ever about shapes saved to a people okay the question number five where should the persecution be placed on the line of the priests the Levites and the Natha nemesis so if we draw a line I'm gonna be very very very very very very simple here very humble and good public but put one point here okay we could draw another line I made going too far here all right it's correct squishing them too much together but anyway so with priests where would the persecution begin but not cry give me a date 126 days before the midnight cry hundred 26 days oh you're saying on that wise he said no yes okay go ahead angel internal persecution yep what is that it'd be April something from November 9th to July 18th is 252 days and that's day 8 and half way through 126 days after November 9th and before July 18th Christ is on the cross I think that's a symbol of persecution okay so this would be like 252 from there yeah 252 all they say Oh this would be like a third hour would you say March 14 is what would you say just be the third hour since you're saying I don't know about that I thought good to keep it simple but this is okay simple simple simple you said yes it's okay all right persecution internal zone but I was looking for external yeah external all right and so for the levites same point time same point in time if they're gonna come stand with you they're gonna get persecuted for doing so and they're gonna start standing with you right then so maybe we could say like ours or doggies we can say that I was guys I was going to say and just as our started you have a point in time and then maybe there's wood start but it's a period what's that excuse it's a period of time so leave light start right here and go you'd do that right I'm gonna get it mixed up with this other one over here and I don't want to do that we really left Nicodemus we need to go back to him anyway so okay really you should have put Levites it's understandable what you're doing okay so put the Sunday law on the end December 25th and there's the nothin em starting right there yes yes I was gonna say that I just need to do away with all this right here but is the 1:26 correct now no no and what was the purpose of putting a much going back 126 you you can show now wipe out your 126 you can show that that's day 8 okay and a date in the middle Christ goes to the cross he's a high priest the priest going to get persecuted halfway through you're saying that's May 14 March 14 Saturday March 14th so two Saturdays ago so basically the persecution let's go backwards for the Nelsons Nathan Evans would start on December 25th 2021 and the levites July 18th and then for us internal liver midnight's of last year second our July 18th would be different July 18th we're going to get external persecution but we have a persecution that we go through internally before that but it's hard to be abrupt here but I wanted if you will go back to the to the desire of Ages different subject but I wanted to cover this because because I have it on the board here a desire of Ages 176 was it wanted to make this point and not just not ignore it so and desire of Ages 176 and the interview with Nicodemus Jesus unfolded the plan of salvation and his mission to the world okay and later on in this is at the very beginning of his ministry he opened the truth to a member of the Sanhedrin so at the beginning at the very beginning he opened the plan of salvation the beginning of his ministry Christ opened the plan of salvation to a member of the Sanhedrin all right and it says second sentence in none of his subsequent discourses did he explain so fully step-by-step the work necessary to be done in the hearts of all who would inherit the kingdom of heaven it's always been interesting to me as sister White says in none of his subsequent discourses that takes in a lot dear brothers and sisters and none of his subsequent discord did he Christ explain so fully step step by step the work necessary to be done in the hearts of all who would inherit the kingdom of heaven this I learned years ago and I'm the more I look at it the more I every time I occasionally look at this there's such a depth of meaning in that interview Christ's interview with Nicodemus such a depth so further on it says but the leaders well know at the very beginning of his ministry he opened the truth to a member of the Sanhedrin to the mind that was most receptive and to an appointed teacher of the people but the leaders of Israel did not welcome the light Nicodemus hid the truth in his heart and for three years there was little apparent fruit little apparent fruit and what else but also says but Jesus was acquainted with the soil into which he cast the seed therefore you have John 12:24 which someone read for us John 12:24 for a time I'm sorry that the words spoken at night to one listener in the Lonely Mountain world not lost verily I say unto you except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die it abideth alone but if it die it bringeth forth much fruit everyone Christ and his followers it says for a time Nicodemus did not publicly acknowledge Christ but he watched his life and pondered his teachings in the Sanhedrin Council he repeatedly thwarted the schemes of the priests to destroy him when at last Jesus was lifted up on the cross Nicodemus remembered the teaching of upon Olivet as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness even so must the Son of Man be lifted up that whosoever believeth in him should not perish but have everlasting life the light that the light from that interview illumined the cross of Calvary and Nicodemus saw in Jesus the world's Redeemer can we believe that that experience happens in some today they hear this message and to our human sight like Elijah we think there aren't that many but on July 18th they're going to come out of the Woodworks I fully expected yes here's when did he talk to Jesus right before the cross know at the beginning of Christ's ministry that's a very big because he went out and power at this Stephens martyrdom so how's that three years I'm trying to get his timeline it gives you three years okay okay so so Christ allocated in Christ's ministry it starts at the beginning of Christ's ministry so Christ how long was men at his ministry three and a half years okay so at the cross though at the cross Nicodemus came forward not only do you see him coming forward here yes all right and then with during that whole interaction he was already active that yes for three and a half years okay so one of the things that teaches the way you got it drawn up there is that the truth of 9/11 there's no truth that more fully presents the message and then what is given at 9/11 for our generation yes it's the secret yeah secret meeting I don't know I'm just saying it was that what he taught Nicodemus at the very beginning of Christ's ministry was his baptism that would be 9/11 what was taught at 9/11 there's no truth there after that more fully explained our history than 9/11 and that's why everyone that leaves this platform attacks 9/11 yes absolutely but you said today's secret is Pomona and it was a secret meeting and you would then mark that at 9/11 he would go through that three years leading up to the cross where he came out right so that Paolo and I would be President 9/11 the first secret meeting with Nick well you bring it secret into the way you have to defend yourself no they did all over the board and you're saying one is 911 right yeah 911 would be the very beginning of Christ's ministry and he had a meeting with Nicodemus the secret meeting at night at midnight all right let's go to question number six study of Acts of the Apostles 105 points to that long paragraph go back to Acts of the Apostles you have lost my place would someone go ahead and read that paragraph for starting with the persecution that came upon the church the persecution that came upon the church in Jerusalem resulted in giving a great impetus to the work of the gospel success had attended the ministry of the word in that place and there was danger that the disciples would linger there too long unmindful of the Savior's Commission to go to all the world forgetting that strength to resist evil is best gained by aggressive service they began to think that they had no work so important as that of shielding the church to Jerusalem from the attacks of the enemy instead of educating the new converts to carry the gospel to those who had not heard it they were in danger of taking a course that would lead all to be satisfied but what had been accomplished to scatter his representatives abroad where they could work for others God permitted persecution to come upon them driven from Jerusalem to believers went everywhere preaching the gospel thank you so the second part of that question is where in great controversy the chapter we were at just a little while ago chapter 38 is the latter part of Acts of the Apostles 105 point two parallel so if you look at the latter part of the paragraph that sister Deborah just read it says to scatterings representatives abroad where they could work for others God permitted persecution to come upon them driven from Jerusalem the believers went everywhere preaching the word now I expect that all here have read great controversy you've read this chapter the final warning we're in that chapter with that part of this paragraph from Acts of the Apostles be paralleled okay I'll point you to it if you look there at the very last two paragraphs of the chapter a great controversy the final warning page 612 which someone read the last two paragraphs yes servants of God with their faces be lighted up and shining the holy consecration will hasten from place to place to proclaim the message from heaven by thousands of voices all over the earth the warning will be given miracles will be brought the sick will be healed and signs and wonders will follow the believers Satan also works with lying wonders even bringing down fire from heaven in the sight of men thus the inhabitants of the earth will be brought to take their stand like me the next paragraph the message will be carried not so much by argument as by the deep conviction of the Spirit of God the arguments have been presented the seed has been sown and now it will spring up and bear fruit the publication's distributed by the missionary workers have exerted their influence yet many whose minds were impressed have been prevented from fully comprehended the truth or from yielding obedience now the rays of light penetrate everywhere the truth is seen in its clearness and the honest children of God seven of the bands which have helped them family connections church relations are powerless to stain them now truth is more precious that all besides notwithstanding the agencies combined against the truth a large number take their stand upon the okay completing this question now and reading again that the last portion of that paragraph in Acts of the Apostles 105 it says the scatter is representative abroad where they could work for others God permitted persecutions come up persecution to come upon them driven from Jerusalem to believers when everywhere preaching the words how does that parallel what sister Bronwyn just read turned everywhere okay now the race of life penetrated everybody anything else what's going on in this chapter among other things lot going on in this chapter persecution there's healing that you've got healing they're in great controversy in those two those two paragraphs and you had healing you will go find here in a moment that you have healing in Acts of the Apostles isn't it in the passage that we're studying also so question number 7 again study Acts of the Apostles 105.3 which someone read 105.3 among those among those to whom the Savior had given the Commission go ye therefore and teach all nations Matthew 28:19 were many from the humbler walks of life men and women who have learned to love their Lord and who had determined to follow his example of unselfish service to these lowly ones as well as to disciples who have been with the Savior during his earthly ministry have been given a precious trust they were to carry to the world the glad tidings of salvation through Christ in my opinion there's a striking similarity a striking connection between the experience of the Apostles here and the experience of God's people in that chapter described in the chapter in great controversy the final warning so question number 7 again says a study those two passages together one from actually the one from Acts of the Apostles in great controversy 105 absolutely apostles 105.3 contains the words humbler and service okay find the same words in the great controversy 106.1 so what is one was 6.1 great controversy say I say one as actually 106 point to I made a mistake there there great controversy 106 point two actually if someone could read that well it's too long of a paragraph I'll just read part of it thus the message of the third angel will be proclaimed as a time for it for it to be given as a time for it to be given at a time comes for it to be given with greater with greatest power the Lord will work through humble instruments leading the minds of those who consecrate themselves to his great controversy 106 point to dust a message did I say 106 yeah I over and over again even have it in your notes I do that's just like me I meant to say I meant to put on their 606 I'm sorry I see I understand your confusion shame on me all right now we get that cleared up all right so thus the message of the third angel will be proclaimed as the time comes for it to be given with greatest power the Lord will work through humble instruments leading the minds of those who consecrate themselves to his service the laborers will be qualified brother by the unction of his spirit then by the training of literary institutions you've got to watch me oh man okay so you have there in both instances you have the word humbler and service all right there's all kinds of parallels between those two and then the last part of that question number cell what's that it's chapter 13 chapter 38 in Chapter 38 signifies to silage is prediction about islam josiah vich is prediction about islam the lifting up of and listening up of the enzyme all right find the same words in the great controversy okay Acts of the Apostles 106 I got 106 a study that's even wrong yeah I know that's correct okay I got the 100 from Acts of the Apostles mixed up with yeah okay so Acts of the Apostles 106 contained the words zeal and the sick were healed if you look there in acts with pops Acts of the Apostles 106 it says when they were scattered by persecution they went forth with missionary zeal they realized the responsibility of their mission they knew that they held in their hands the bread of life for a famishing world and they were constrained by the love of Christ to break this bread to all who were in need the Lord the Lord wrought through them wherever they went the sick were healed and the poor have the gospel preached unto them so now you have the word healed and they're also the missionary zeal and the sick were healed and you'll find similar words in great controversy there 6:12 you have the sicker healed there and you have missionary yeah he says stimulated with holy zeal and with divine impulse strong upon them they entered upon the performance of their duties so you have the zeal there - yes I didn't I missed that one but I'm familiar with that one too so wonderful times are before us other sister wife say it the when celestial glory is blended with the persecutions of the past a light coming from heaven as the end of that sentence can you imagine that in your mind's eye celestial glory what does that how does that huh what does that look like not only truth I envision angels appearing that we can see signs in the heavens all that blended with the persecutions of the past I think of Shadrach Meshach and Abednego and the fiery furnace that was a miracle but they were being persecuted at the same time that's one of just one example shall we pray our gracious Father in heaven we thank you and we praise you for your word we thank you that we do have the Bible the precious Bible and and the spirit of prophecy books to guide us into all truth help us O Lord to take advantage of the means which you have placed in our hands to become acquainted with the truth so that when celestial glory and the persecutions of the past are blended we shall be attended by thy holy angels and we shall be guided by them and prepared to meet our Lord and Savior in the skies thank you dear father for hearing our prayer and guiding us in the name of thy Son Jesus Christ we pray amen you